Collaboration And Cooperation: Truth And Community
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In this episode, Bill Stierle and Tom dive into truth and community—how the community entrusts its voice, opinion, and stand for truths to the politicians they have elected; and how they’re losing the truth because they’re losing trust. Bill and Tom then talk about the loss of community due to the two sides of the government representatives who are not cooperating and collaborating to move forward as a country. Learn about the narrative and belief system being promoted today in the USA and why this system is not helping the country and the world for that matter. Lastly, Bill shares ways on how to get the truth and trust of the President.
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Bill, you intrigued me at the end of our last episode with this idea of truth and community. I’m excited to talk about that.
Tom, this one is the most challenging based on our current messaging of the field of time. The primary slogan that President Donald Trump got elected on was, “Make America Great Again.” The challenge with that phrase is it allows the listener to paintbrush anything they believe of what great looks like and what America looks like, cultivate that in their mind and then project it, “He’s going to get me the thing that’s in my mind.” The problem is the America of the 1950s, post-world War II, had many social constructs in it. Not socialism but social constructs. Trying to get the living wage to build the middle class so that the tax base could cover and carry and move the nation forward from a time of deficit spending during the war, that the tax base could cover that choice and to do that.
What came out of the 1950s was an image of the community, of people working together and people being able to afford to be in the community, having enough money to do and be active in the world. My dad who was a construction person, maintenance person was able to buy a boat and take us all fishing. He was able to raise eight kids on $25,000 a year. Let’s slow that sucker down. Was there a struggle with that, when his kids wanted to go to college? The answer would be yes. There were the grants available, the Lacrosse grants to allow me to go and get started. They have the ability to pay them back.
The money ratio of money coming into money going out was doable. Most of the senators and congresspeople, them or their parents went to college when it was $3,000 a year. They’re not in the position of $15,000, $20,000, $25,000, $50,000 a year. What it forces people to do was to go like, “They go to a good school. They better make a lot of money. I don’t want to pay taxes so I could have enough money to spend and take for it.” There are a bunch of challenges here in the environment that we’ve got to be present too.
The community that we had is not available the way it used to be. Once you start to lose the community, we start to lose the truth, which is unsettling.
That was the thing that sparked my interest in bringing this up. I saw an interview with Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor. She pointed this out about the dynamic on the senate floor. When you see somebody at the podium on C-SPAN speaking, you see a lot of empty seats around them. You realize they’re speaking to the camera. They’re not speaking to each other as senators, as part of a community. That was illuminating to me.
If you’re out of the room and you’re not listening to the person, you don’t get the molecules of emotion translated between the words that they’re speaking. I feel inspired by the thing I’m talking about. I’m so inspired, I’m going to inspire you to reconsider your belief. Not if you’re not in the room. You’re a Democrat. You’re a Republican.
What could you say that would be of interest to me?
You’re in the box that I’ve got you in.
Believe me, I understand that it’s a movie in a dramatization. If you look at a movie like Steven Spielberg’s Lincoln, you see the scenes of the Senate debating the 17th Amendment to the Constitution. Everybody is in the room and they’re all talking about it. It’s a little more reminiscent of scenes of the English Parliament. If you’ve seen any video over their Brexit debates, it seems to be this loud animated debate. Whoever speaking at the podium is being interrupted with loud reactions from one side or the other in the room. It seems on the one hand, maybe a little bit disorderly. On the other hand, everybody’s in the room and listening.
Their willingness, unconsciously, to try to make a point from an adversarial position is costing them dearly. As they’re trying to win a point, they’re not trying to navigate what’s best. The whole idea of allowing a populous to vote on something that they have little knowledge or information, as one English person would put it, “Why am I voting on this thing I know nothing about to be in Brexit or to be out of it? I don’t know all the issues. Why am I voting on that?” The way she said it was clear, “That’s why I voted for this person to go into office. I thought they could figure this out and make a vote for this complex thing.” I don’t have time to think about if I vote this way, a new wall puts up between Northern Ireland.” It’s like, “A new wall goes up? Why does the new wall go up?” A hard border goes up. We just started dying over the hard wall. Many people died over that one. We’re not doing that again.
The community is losing truth because it is losing trust that the leaders are going to have their best interest.
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It’s challenging because do you want people that don’t know anything about an issue voting on something? That means the community has to trust the person that they’re voting into office. Not if that person you’re voting for has been influenced by money because they had to campaign to the highest donor. They voted for what the donor wants them to do. They’re not voted for what the general community would like them to do. There’s the loss because there’s a separation of this identity. The identity is causing a big cause of that separation. One of the big challenges is that the community is losing truth because it’s losing trust. These leaders are going to have the best interest of the larger committee, the nation of the USA to have it. Will the USA go the path the way Europe is in different countries? Will it be the Southern States of? Will it be the Northeastern States of? Will it be the Western States of the United States?
Those States will fight and start doing coalitions together and go like, “Screw the rest of those folks.” You’re stuck over here. We’re the United States but we have our coalition and we’re not going to do anything that’s going to hard these seven states. Is that where we’re going? When we go down the path of separate identity versus collective identity called the United States, it plays right into the struggles that Europe struggles with. We are different countries but we’re still human beings that can collaborate and cooperate together. It serves our interests to stay as a group here. It does not serve our interests to be apart from each other. This is what the people in England didn’t know that they voted for to get out. They had no idea that they were voting for that drastic piece. They were saying, “No. I want our old currency back. I don’t want the Euro. I want the Queen.”
I’m sure there was this idea of this empire that the United Kingdom once was, with all the imperialism and the colonies in Hong Kong. Obviously of Australia, South Africa, India. The UK was a powerful force a long time ago. It’s interesting and probably disheartening how this whole Brexit crisis has eliminated how small the United Kingdom is in the world order, right?
That’s right, and how a little influence they have left. One of the biggest magical things that England, the UK contributed to the world during that period of dominance was structure, order and following the rules. They contributed, “Here’s how to do things in a systematic way. Everything is not up for grabs all the time. We want to create stability and certainty and here is what that stability and certainty look like.” Because of that mindset, that organized, sequential, detailed structure, it allowed that tiny nation to dominate the world for a lot of years. The structure breaks down if it doesn’t have a relationship with the people.
The structure breaks down if it doesn’t have a relationship with creativity. It breaks down. There are no new creative ideas. What the structure has to do is go, “Let’s go back to what we’re familiar with which is more structure.” It’s like, “No, not in the modern world, you can’t do that.” The new way of doing things is collaboration and cooperation which is fundamental to survival. If you don’t do collaboration and cooperation, you perish. It’s unsettling. Let’s go after this community belief from a species standpoint. Unless you and I get disturbed about truth. This is disturbing about truth. This is a truth podcast. Tom, have you ever bought a book and only read the first four chapters?
I’m sure.
You want to get back to the book but you have other things, another book or something else or another shiny lure that knocked that reading out of your consciousness and you only got so far. You learned a couple of things in chapters 1, 2 and 3 or chapter 4. There were important lines that showed up there and said, “This is an important belief and an important line.” Other people said, “Did you read that book?” “Yes, I remember this line from that book. I never got to the end of the book.” When I mention the book by Charles Darwin, Origin of Species, what would be a line of that book that you would say, “This is in that book?” It’s natural selection, which means?
Survival of the fittest.
Chapter four. Chapter nine is, “Upon further consideration, what I’ve come to realize that the species that go extinct are the ones that are not co-evolving together in a collaborative, cooperative way. I’m summarizing it a tad bit to make the point.” He says, “If one species gobbles up all the natural resources in an environment they go is extinct. They push themselves to the brink. They’ve dominated and taken over all the natural resources in that area and they go extinct. They are not co-evolving together. This finch is evolving at the same time as this cactus is. As the finch figures out how to feed off the cactus, the cactus figures out to put more spines up so that the finch doesn’t get at the cactus as much. The finch changes the size of its beak. The cactus changes the size of its thorns. That is collaboration and cooperation between species in a community. Each community member is contributing and protecting itself in a collaborative way. If a species doesn’t do that, it can crash the system.
Bring this back to the loss of community, how the two sides of our government representatives are not cooperating and collaborating to move us forward as a country. Forget the whole reality of how Make America Great Again at the expense of the world is another level of not cooperating and collaborating. Let’s stay domestically for the moment. Our problems start here.
We’re cultivating and we’re nurturing us versus them. We’re nurturing those people versus us people. It’s like, “No, they’re people,” and yes, there are outliers that take advantage of the system. To amplify the outlier that’s taking advantage of the system instead of looking at the outlier going like, “That’s an interesting point of view.” Feel free to live your life with that point of view, but we’re not doing Nazism again. We’re not doing that. It’s not a particularly good idea to do white nationalists. A nation tried that one time and then tried and then that went to its extreme. That extreme was the elimination of and killing of certain species. We’re not doing that one. We already did that one. We’re not doing that one again.
It’s so challenging because the community is not in acceptance or inclusion, it’s in exclusion. It’s us versus them. When somebody is different than you, you’ve got to do some work as a human being called to listen and then adjust and consider a belief shift. You’ve got to do those two things. You’ve got to listen to which people stink at. Adjust your belief system to say, “Why is this person thinking this way?” What is actively causing this person to be in action about this point of view and go like, “No wonder they came from this area, they came from this school.” They came from this family. This bad thing happened to them when they were a child and it’s influencing their belief.
Doesn’t it feel like our current political system and government system here in the United States is very much being navigated through an us versus them narrative and/or belief structure? There are little cooperation and collaboration going on.
We’re not going to vote for it on the Senate floor.
We’re not even going to debate it.
It will never reach the Senate floor.
The species that go extinct are the ones that are not co-evolving together in a collaborative and cooperative way.
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Mitch McConnell is outright saying, “We’re not going to debate or bring anything to the floor of the Senate. Unless the President is on record saying he is going to sign it into law.” I thought the whole point of the Senate was to debate ideas, craft laws. I understand the embarrassment that can happen if you spent all this time debating and passing a bill then the president won’t sign. It’s like, “What is your job there in the Senate, rubber-stamp things?”
I don’t want to break from the coalition because right now I have an autocrat. In Mitch McConnell’s mind, he is a little stuck because he has an autocrat in the office that wants to be known for. What Mitch is not savvy enough to do is being able to position it so Donald Trump could take credit for something. Even when it’s positioned where Donald Trump can take credit for something, Donald Trump will turn it on him in a dime to get media attention and media support. Donald Trump has done a wonderful job of tricking the giant into carrying him. The media giant keeps carrying his messaging instead of setting him down to get him to walk there. If they said his message is down he would have to walk instead of ride on their backs. For example, Joe Biden and Joe Biden’s son thing is in the news. There’s no evidence of this but there is a thing called an associative messaging. Here’s what this person said or did. Here’s the son and there are a couple of relationships that are close to those things and it’s enough to make doubt show up.
Something doesn’t have to be true or false to cause doubt to show up. It has to be said. That’s how truth gets hijacked. If I want to purchase truth then all I’ve got to do is say, “Hillary doesn’t have stamina. She gets sick. Look at those pictures, you saw the pictures of her falling down? She stumbled once because she had the flu and tried to white-knuckle something.” She’s calling you a deplorable. No, she repeated back what somebody said to her. She smiled a little bit and goes like, “Now they’ve got their sound bite to work off of.”
That’s illuminating and helpful, to show how all you have to do is inject into something into a belief to purchase truth. It doesn’t mean that what you want to do or you’re saying is in fact true. You’re raising the potential and planting the seeds of doubt. It’s the irony of what you were saying about the President casting this cloud over Joe Biden and his son Hunter with the whole Ukraine thing. He’s injecting doubt. He’s saying, “Something wasn’t right about that.” The irony is he’s completely ignoring the reality that he is behaving like a king exerting power over appointed positions in the government. Some of them are Cabinet members. I don’t remember how the inspector general is. They’re not following the law.
They’re doing the same thing that England did. We got so pissed about what the English and the Nobles did. That’s a form of oligarchy but it’s a monarchy with nobles being the oligarch. That’s the same thing that Russia has. Russia has control of the church inside Russia. Putin builds a relationship and they get to play in their space as a form of an oligarch and he gets to play in his space. He’s got all these different 12, 13, 15 people that he has running the major industries inside the country. Which by the way, I learned and I don’t know the full truth of this is less of a GDP than Italy does.
Does the whole country have less of a GDP?
It’s like, “That’s not a big economy that is allowing to be wheeling so much power.” Because of the way it’s structured, it makes people starve for respect, recognition and acknowledgment. People that have low self-worth want to emulate that. Donald Trump is one of those characters that walk into that.
He emulates it because he loves it and he respects it. He wants to be treated like a king. To a degree, he doesn’t understand all the laws of the United States. Who would understand all of them or he doesn’t care about them. He wants to do it his way, which is why we’re at this assault on truth and the rule of law with regard to this whistleblower complaint. The interesting thing is the Democrats are sitting in this position of oversight with the house committees. They’re arguing the facts. They’re saying, “The law says you need to turn this over. If you don’t turn it over we’re going to go to the courts,” and this is a slow process. Where if they would take a page out of the President’s book and inject doubt into the President’s integrity, motives. “If there was nothing to this phone call, why wouldn’t he share about what was discussed?”
“I appreciate the President,” meaning that it might sound like this. I’ll give them the talking point right now. This could be any of them Adam Schiff or Nadler or Pelosi could clean up with this narrative. “I’m feeling a little doubtful and skeptical right now. The President could meet the need for privacy, but it seems like he’s not interested in truth at this point.” I’m interested in truth. What truth would look like to us is for us to see the thing so that we can clear his name. I’m interested in clearing his name as quickly as possible so we could get back to the work of the people. The President is willing to allow us to clear his name. We’re interested in clearing his name right now. Is there anything we could say or do to get them to clear his name? We’d like to clear his name right now. We like to restore respect to the president by clearing his name. What clearing his name would look like is looking at this. The need for truth is important to us and it’s important for us to clear his name because we all want to work together.
The cliché there is to clear his name which in reality is dragging his name through the mud without dragging it through the mud, isn’t it?
That’s correct. I’m going to associate the need for truth not being met with his name and strategy. There’s no manipulation here.
There’s no trick when you are fighting for a specific need. It’s a manipulation when you set an untruth next to a statement.
“I can’t release my taxes because they’re under audit.” Would that be a good untruth that you’re associating with something?
Right. It’s like, “We check with the IRS and they said it’s not true.”
That hasn’t helped us at all, has it?
No, it’s no true but it doesn’t help. Instead of nice compassion and empathy, it sounds like the President is interested in meeting the need for privacy and had the need for truth. Privacy is such an important need for us to have as Americans. We want to make sure that everybody has privacy. For the President though, the need for truth looks like, we have someone’s information to hold the highest office. We have the level of truth and trust we would like for that. The President is not as interested in truth and trust as he is in privacy. He was interested in truth and trust. He would disclose those things or maybe promised those things before the next election and not deliver them at that time. He’s probably going to go for the need for privacy. You could beat him at his narrative because you already know what his narrative is going to be. He’s probably going to stay off the privacy right now. I don’t think he’s going to do that.
Do you know when people say things and then they don’t do things? That’s the need for integrity. Do you know what integrity would look like? Integrity from a President is when they say something they follow through on this thing they say. Sometimes the President might get stuck with that and we could appreciate that. It seems like the President doesn’t meet the need for integrity often. If Donald Trump were to do integrity, what that would look like to us is, “Now I’ve got Donald Trump sitting next to integrity. He can’t meet his needs for privacy over integrity because there’s a problem here.” He’s sowing doubt by saying, “I don’t know who the Vice President’s son talked to and we all know that Ukraine has problems with corruption.” Joe Biden’s son was in there and talking to somebody about something, somewhere. There’s no evidence of any of that. The result is that the feeling of doubt and skepticism is associated with Joe Biden. It’s not associated with Donald Trump.
Something doesn't have to be true or false to cause doubt to show up. It just has to be said because that's how truth gets hijacked.
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Let me see if I can twist you into a pretzel a little more and help us with something. Have you heard the President say how the media is asking about having the whistleblower complaint turned over to Congress and publishing the transcript? They’re bringing it out for the world to see. He’s labeled that as another witch hunt. The President has labeled this as another witch hunt. Somehow, that’s a witch hunt, not the President trying to dig up dirt on the Biden’s from a foreign nation. How would you flip that script?
It sounds like the President has a belief that this is another witch hunt. Notice I’m putting his message first, that’s called meeting the need for being heard. I want to make sure his message is being heard and it’s coming out of my mouth even though I don’t agree with the message. I want to make sure I’m being heard because he’ll scream back, “You’re not hearing me.” It’s saying, “Mr. President, we heard you. You have the thought that it’s a witch hunt, did we hear that correct?” He says, “Yes.” “You would like the truth about this. Is that what you’d like?” “Yes.” “You would like truth about the Biden’s next to the truth about you talking to Ukraine.”
All of a sudden, you’re doing it at the right level. You’re matching apples and apples. You don’t get there by saying, “The president goes at it again. Look at what he’s doing.” You can’t get there from here. Language is a vibration for a human being that keeps us alive. When we stop thinking, we die. When we start to fall apart, when our language starts to fall apart, human beings don’t last long. We struggle there. Even people that are in a coma still have a frequency. They still have a brain wave and go like, “We’re keeping this thing alive because we’re noticing this brainwave thing here. There must be something going on in there.” The person is holding on to something. We’re keeping him alive because they’re holding onto something. We’re saying, “We value life that much that we’re keeping this person in a coma alive.” There’s some frequency running in that brain. We don’t know what it is. Hopefully, they find their way back. Some people do.
They wake up after three years, “Have I been sleeping for three years?” It seems like your body needed that time to reboot. Why did it reboot? I don’t know but sure I’m back now. Something was knocking them out. The accident, the thought of death, the possibility of death, the certainty and they were on the margin. They stayed there in limbo for three years after a car wreck. The body does all kinds of different things. I can’t remember where this little factoid showed up. It has to do with plane wrecks. Sometimes when a plane crashes, all the people have died on the plane crash. The medical examiners do the post of all the people that had died. Some of the people are going to like, “This body doesn’t have any injuries on it. Why did it die?” There are no broken bones, nothing hit their head, why is this person dead?
They are speculating about and there’s a thought about how their body had died before the plane hits the ground. It thinks it’s going to die. “We’re ready to crash,” and the body shuts off. Why? It doesn’t want to feel the pain of dying and then it dies. Our thoughts and our frequencies can get hijacked by our own bodies. It’s easy for the truth to get hijacked. It takes a little work to get hijacked.
We are sensitive creatures. All I got to do is say the word ice cream, Tom, and start talking and get you thinking about your favorite ice cream. What’s your favorite?
I’ll say cookies and cream.
Cookies and cream, two scoops right in front of you, Tom.
I’m smiling already.
Your physiology is tracking with me over the words ice cream. It’s tracking and it has to do that way. A lot of purchasing truth has to do with messaging. A witch hunt is a great example of that thing that is similar to ice cream. Why? The Democrats did not file for impeachment. Clearly it was a witch hunt. Why didn’t they do it earlier? Why are they waiting? It’s like, “It gives more time for him to cultivate any narrative he would like.”
Talk about a bad situation. Honestly, the media is not helping. Across the board, they’re not helping. It’s because they keep going after the facts, that all now the President says is, “They don’t have to turn over the whistleblower complaint,” which is not in fact true. The law says this. At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter what the truth is. If you don’t approach it in a different way, it’s just another tick on the 10,000 plus lies he said over the years he’s been president. What’s one more?
He plants the seed. He’s going to plant the witch hunt seed and water it. He plants the swamp. These people are swamp people. Meanwhile, it’s like, “You’ve got the most under-skilled people ever in the leadership roles.” I don’t want the readers to think that it’s you and I versus them, that this is a Republican bashing thing. It’s not. What this narrative is saying how language is being used by a certain group of people to purchase truth away from the freedom that we have. They’re purchasing truth so they get to have choices, respect and financial security. They’re purchasing truth at the expense of others. We used to give it a nod as Ronald Reagan came in and Bush one and Bush two, now Trump. We used to push it and go like, “I can see where you’re going. We’ll allow rich people to have it. We’ll be going to pass the citizens united.” They gave a push to rich people. “If I were rich, I would like to have more of my money too.” Maybe one day when I’m rich, I’ll get to have the advantages. I’m going to look the other way. Clearly, they’ll trickle-down, won’t they? The answer is, no, it’s not in their interest. “I’ll give $700 billion to the banks. We would like them, for that $700 billion, to give people the loans that they need so they don’t go into foreclosure.” Did they do that? No. They took the money and they remodeled their own banks.
The same thing happened with all of the tax breaks for corporations where they’re all going to hire more people. It will little trickle down and produce more jobs. The reality was that only about 5% of companies did hire more people because they had more available cash. Most of them repurchased their own stock with it. They improve their own financial position.
They’re still solidified in there. Those companies become a different giant, because we have talked about tricking the giant in the past. They become a different type of giant and then the giants start gobbling each other. Bayer buys Monsanto and rebrands it. Why? The giant called Monsanto has a bit of an ego on their face. We’re going to rebrand them. What better than a German chemical company? All I’m doing right now is poking a stick at the giant and saying, “By the way, there’s a giant over there.” Can we get scared of these giants? Yes. Sometimes these giants take people out. They do things. When we’re an advocate for meeting the need for truth or fairness or these kinds of things. We want to come back to what the community will do. The community when cultivated in a direction, like in Hong Kong, a million people will walk down the street and saying, “Listen, everybody, they’re doing this thing. This thing is going to adversely affect our freedom.” I can see what they’re going for. To try to have this social measuring system with AI looking at all our faces it gives us to score. There are a lot of problems with that system. First, if there’s going to be a mistake, that’s not me. The second thing is I don’t like what that person is doing, so I’m going to lower their score. That sounds like credit reports. What did they do? “That got on the credit report. It’s my dad that died thing got on my credit report. How did that work?”
You’ve got to have your personal identity score.
That’s a little bit about what the credit score is. Why are these things important? It’s important to measure things but not at the expense of humanity, as well as growth and change, as well as the ability to work your way back out of a mistake. If something is catastrophic, something happened, you’re at a party and you’re drinking with friends. You drive home and something terrible happens. There’s an internal price that that human being has got to pay for the thing they said or did. There’s an external price for all the people in the car, let alone if they hit somebody else. It’s the cost of that. Does that last a lifetime? In the person’s brain, it does. Does it affect somebody else? As if the court systems never executed somebody that was innocent, just saying.
Do you see what I mean? There is a catastrophic truth that is lifelong lasting. What the community needs to do to rally back and to purchase truth back is to start to get to a place of reconciliation rather than waiting for the next new cycle to take place.
Reconciliation then moves to action. We’re in a phase of reconciliation and a phase of mourning the loss of the people that died in El Paso. We? No. The people that are there, because we as a nation have not thought about that until the next shooting, where we get to do it all over again. There’s no reconciliation and there’s no healing. There’s no safety and prevention that’s taking place. It’s going to happen again.
Language is keeps us alive. When we stop thinking, we die. We start to fall apart when our language starts to fall apart.
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That’s a whole other subject that would be great to take a little deeper dive into.
I’m glad you mentioned that because the community has got to come and do something about that. The community has got to come and keep showing up there. The community shows up like climate change, these big issues that are getting doubt and skepticism thrown in their direction. That’s how truth is being purchased right now it’s like, “What about?” It’s called what about is. What about this? What about that? What about Joe Biden and his son? It’s like, “What about your sons?” It’s like they’re clean. What about your daughter?
That would be useful. Maybe some people might think of a third-rail topic. The reality of guns in America and the Second Amendment, the NRA has done an incredible job of purchasing truth over the years. It’s a minority of people that have managed to get our country to the point where we have more guns than people in this country, among other things. It’d be interesting to study a little bit about the NRA and how they purchase truth. Also, what’s happened with all these shootings? Why are we allowing this to happen as a country? Where are we with the language and communication? Maybe a lack of cooperation. We’d find a lot of parallels to some of the other things we’ve been discussing.
It will be interesting next time when we come back, Tom, to take a look at how an individual’s rights over the community rights are being met. That individual’s rights to, “I get to own and exercise this.” It’s allowed to be against a community. The community has to suffer because we value individual rights so much higher than community rights. Community rights have got to shift. Individual rights have got to be a little bit behind for our species to survive. Once it shifts to the community’s rights a little bit behind individual rights, we got to get that dance because sometimes the individual rights will pop their heads up a little bit more. The community rights have got to lead a little bit more because then we’re not in a collaborative space, we’re in a reductive space.
Our economy will keep getting narrower and narrower, which it’s doing because technology is making it narrower and narrower. There’s going to be a bunch of machines eventually that only a few people are going to be able to fix. No one’s being trained to fix them. I’m making a global sentence there. There are many people being trained to fix them. The mindset of how if you lose this group of people, the community will fall apart and then all of a sudden, you got this machine that nobody knows how to run.
It’s interesting to think about the proportionality of the community versus the individual, I like that. That is much related. Maybe that’s the key, right?
Yeah. It’s the truth versus the purchasing truth, the balance between community needs and individual needs. That’s our next podcast, the balance between those two. That’s where the media has got to lean on next. It looks like the President is meeting his personal needs ahead of the needs of the country. It seems like the President is meeting his need for respect by saying and making that choice. That’s similar to what King Louis did in France. Look at how similar that is to what Mussolini did in Italy. This is interesting, the similarity between that choice and the choice that Donald Trump made.
That should be quite illuminating.
Tom, it’s been a lot of fun. More to come.
I look forward to it.
Thanks, buddy.
